BathMTB: Re: Fwd: RE: Bannerdown fencing

Wed Dec 18 13:08:08 EST 2013

Cheers Tom! 

Well I never knew that was the footpath!

I'm going to go and take some pictures and reply to them to explain that we've been using it for the last 20 years... The danger of course being that 'ignorance' is no defence!

Thank again. I'll cc you in,

Andy

On Tuesday, 17 December 2013, 15:03, "tom at greenparkbikestation.com" <tom at greenparkbikestation.com> wrote:

Hi Andy  

Here is the reply from BANES about the fence posts for your info.  

Not sure where you / cycle clubs etc would want to go with this!  

I can't afford £2500!!  

cheers  

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From: Cheryl Hannan <Cheryl_Hannan at BATHNES.GOV.UK> 
To: "'tom at greenparkbikestation.com'" <tom at greenparkbikestation.com> 
Cc: "tmatabb at aol.com" <tmatabb at aol.com> 
Date: 16 December 2013 at 10:20 
Subject: RE: Bannerdown fencing  
Dear Tom 

If you referring to the footpath BA2/30, the new fencing does not represent a safety issue for walkers so I will not be looking to get the fence posts moved. 
It would take a legal order to upgrade this footpath  to a bridleway.  If you wanted to make an application to do this the cost would be in the region of £2,500 for the administration fees plus additional costs for advertising the order. 

Regards 

Cheryl  

From:tom at greenparkbikestation.com [mailto:tom at greenparkbikestation.com] 
Sent: 15 December 2013 14:32
To: Cheryl Hannan
Cc: analogueandy at yahoo.co.uk; tmatabb at aol.com
Subject: RE: Bannerdown fencing   

Hi Cheryl  

Maybe we've unknowingly been riding up and down a footpath?  Its the track at the SE edge that runs along the wall.  

If that's the case, and I have been doing this for since 1988 can it be upgraded to a Bridleway. (I guess this could take some time)  

So:  

In any case, and as many bikes are using it to go up and down, as it is a safety issue can yourself and Mr Tabb look at moving back the fencing posts?  

many thanks  

Tom Jenkins  

On 13 December 2013 at 14:38 Cheryl Hannan <Cheryl_Hannan at BATHNES.GOV.UK> wrote:  

>Dear Tomas and Andy 
>  
>Your emails have been forwarded onto me from Graeme Stark regarding the issues with fencing and gates on Bannerdown Common. 
>  
>Following a site visit yesterday 12/12/2013 with Michael Tabb the Secretary for Batheaston Freeholders Committee we walked the bridleway which runs across Bannerdown Common  and could not find any fencing running alongside the wall on the bridleway.  I attach a plan showing where the bridleway runs across the middle of the common.  Could you please let me know exactly where the issue with the fencing is located. 
>  
>With regard to the gates being left open when there is no livestock grazing (Oct to April) can you please contact Michael Tabb who is dealing with this and is copied into this email. 
>  
>Regards 
>  
>  
>Cheryl Hannan 
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>From:Graeme Stark 
>Sent: 10 December 2013 10:29
>To: Cheryl Hannan
>Subject: FW: Bannerdown fencing   
>  
>  
>From:tom at greenparkbikestation.com mailto:[mailto:tom at greenparkbikestation.com] 
>Sent: 10 December 2013 10:19
>To: Graeme Stark
>Cc: mailto:bathmtb at mtb-oz.com; Andy Stewart
>Subject: Bannerdown fencing   
>  
>Graeme,  
>   
>Just to add my comments - for the official record.  
>   
>We spoke yesterday about the fencing issue at Bannerdown.  
>   
>I strongly urge you (or those responsible) to look at the position of the fencing running alongside the wall on the Bannerdown bridleway.  
>   
>It is so close that, as Andy Stewart says, one slight mistake with your position riding down the Bridleway would very easily cause handlebars to clip the fence or post and result in a very nasty accident.  
>   
>many thanks  
>   
>Tomas Jenkins  
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>On 09 December 2013 at 18:49 Andy Stewart <analogueandy at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:  
>Dear Graeme,   
>>    
>>I know this is probably not one for you but could you point this in the direction of whoever is dealing with the fencing of Bannerdown Common?   
>>    
>>I attended the LAF when this came up and voiced my concern as an off-road cyclist, I did also submit detailed comments to Natural England. I am pleased that my comments were taken on board with respect to access gates etc.   
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>>However, the work is now substantially complete and I am not at all happy with the position of the fence and posts inside the stone wall, effectively on the southern edge of the woodland - it now seriously impedes upon the bridleway. The posts and fence have been positioned well inside the wall and have narrowed the bridleway considerably. They need to be moved closer to the wall.   
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>>A group of us rode the track last week for the first time and I have also been contacted by others who have done so.   
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>>It will not be long before someone clips one of the posts and is injured.   
>>    
>>Kind regards,   
>>    
>>Andy Stewart   
>>Off Road Secretary   
>>Bath Cycling Club   
>>         
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